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Verden Allen
discography | history

Verden
Allen History
Look, you really ought to read a copy of Campbell Devines
authorised biography because
I am not going to type everything in, but…
A Welshman by birth and a classically trained pianist,
Terence Allen moved to Hereford in the early sixtees, where
he eventually joined The Inmates. Known to future Mott
collegues Griffin, Watts and Ralphs by virtue of the Hereford
'scene' — they used to observe Terence and his brother
scrutinising them in The Anchors days — he joined
The Shakedown Sound who became Jimmy "Hard Road To
Travel" Cliffs backing band.
He eventually joined said Griffin, Watts and Ralphs in
The Doc Thomas Group — being the last man to join
the band that would become Mott the Hoople, apart from
Hunter — who changed names to The Silence, via The
Shakedown Sound, and signed to Guy Stephens and Island
Records in 1969.
Bands vocalist Tippins was injured and not fancied by
Stephens so auditions were held and they turned-up Ian
Hunter Patterson and The Silence briefly became Savage
Rose and Fixable before acquiring Mott the Hoople at the
further prompting of Stephens.
At this point, Stephens suggested that Terence ought to
be something else, so Phally (you'll have to read the book!)
decided to use his fathers name, Verden. With an e.
Verden was first to leave the original Mott the Hoople
in January 1973 as a result of Ian Hunters increasing and
band-discussed and agreed assuption of the role of leader.
Having co-written "Death May Be Your Santa Claus" (one
of our favourite Mott tunes, ever) on Brain
Capers and then provided "Soft Ground" on All
The Young Dudes, Allen demoed a couple of tracks for Mott sessions: "Nightmare" (know
to be found on the CBS Anthology), "Black
Staff" aka "Son of the Wise Ones", "Two
Miles From Heaven", "Wine Ridden Talks",
which were not taken up by the band. He did, however, co-write
that hit albums "Hymn for the Dudes" track with
Hunter.
Clearly frustrated and feeling thwarted, Allen quit the
band just as they were getting there. He was promptly followed
by Mick Ralphs later in the year and in some ways the party
was over. It is some tribute to Verdens playing that for
touring purposes, Mott the Hoople hired two keyboard players
(OK, so in his day Ian Hunter had played piano, but not
always), one of whom was his eventual replacement, Morgan
Fisher.
Personally, I found his playing absolutely vital to the
Mott sound; his organ (great sound, and I'm a sucker for
it) was the underpinning for Ralphs' guitar. It is a shame
that Bowie had to resort to saxaphones on the Dudes album — particularly
'Ready for Love' — where Phally's organ would surely
have done the job properly.
During 1974 he re-surfaced with a band called Cheeks,
who minus Verden became The Pretenders. Here is a contemporary
report from Sounds.
And since then, he's been playing with various line-ups
of local Hereford talent, most notably in a band that became
Thunderbuck Ram, with whom he recorded the basis for the
'Long Time
No See' CD in 1994, subsequently re-issued by Angel
Air in 1998 with bonus tracks.
Phally continues to make us all quiver and shiver with
that Hammond sound that he seems to make more special than
anyone else. Ever. Oh what might have been… For at
the time of leaving the band he was, in a way, correct
that other forces were starting to lead and allthough he
wasn't a major songwriting force within Mott the Hoople,
his leaving heralded the beginning of the end.

Verden
Allen Discography
with Mott the Hoople
Singles
All singles recorded
by Mott the Hoople Line-up
01, between 1969 and 1972
Albums
All albums recorded
by Mott the Hoople Line-up
01, between 1969 and 1972, and many of the subsequent compilations put
out over the years by both Island and CBS.

Verden Allen/Mooni
Singles
Wine Ridden Talks/Nightmare
Polydor 2058 367. 1973

Verden & Luther
Singles
On the Rebound/A New Way
Jet 112. 1978
(with Luther Grosvener)

Verden Allen & Thunderbuck Ram
Albums
Long Time No See
SpinitSPCD 101. UK - 1994

Verden Allen
Singles
Colleen/Through and Through
SpinitVA1. 1982
Sweet Sweet Girl/Colleen/
SpinitVA1. 1982 - picture disc
This Way Now/About Tomorrow
SpinitVA2. 1983 - with O Watts and D Griffin
Come on Back/Sweet Sweet Girl
SpinitVA3. 1984 - with Martin Chambers
and Ariel Bender
About Tomorrow/ This Way Now
SpinitVA2 RM. 1985 - with O Watts and
D Griffin
Albums
Long Time
No See
Angel Air SJPCD036. 1998 (with 3 bonus
tracks)
For Each Other
Angel Air SJPCD040. 1999
20 Year Holiday
Angel Air SJPCD110. 2002

Guest Appearances
Singles
On Ilkla Moor Baht'at/Harry Krishna
Dandelion records. 1970 (Bill Oddie)
Singles
Hard Road to Travel - Jimmy Cliff
Island Records. 1967
Verden on "Whighter Shade of Pale"
Ace of Sunlight - Bronco
Island Records. 1971
Verden on "Discernable"
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